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Srpsko višenamensko oklopno vozilo "Lazar"

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Samo 20 se uzima zbog toga što Pakistanci žele da prave kopiju našeg laze i bova je l'?



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И шта је било на крају, купују или не?



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"The documents available with TI-Pakistan, also reveals that the costs of the APC's are very high, 4 times than USA made"

dakle skupo im je RS 1,24 billion za 3 Lazara 2 i 13 BOV M-11 ??? to je oko 9.2 mill evra

lupam jer ne znam cene ali to je 3 Lazara po 1.1 milion i 13 BoV po 450 hiljada, zar to i nisu okvirne i realne cene??? I šta su im to mogli ameri ponuditi a da je 4x jeftinije nego ponuda sdpr-a a eto zanimljivo kako su baš "USA made" uzeli za poređenje???
Kraja nema na vidiku ali cenim da od tog posla neće biti ništa čim su se "kauboji" umešali.

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Njima su Amerikanci nudili isto sto i Hrvatima, a to je deo MRAP-ova iz Avganistana. Nisam siguran ali cini mi se da su jedan deo istih vec i preuzeli. Premda se tu radi o njihovoj vojsci, a ne policiji Karacija, ali je vrlo moguce da novinari misle na to.

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Треба да будемо срећно да смо уопште продали Ласте Ираку. Амерички лоби трговаца оружија је најјачи на свету.

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Radio sam u Pakistanu više tenkovskih verzija na različitim verzijama tenkova. Direktno za njihovu vojsku, za njihove vojne fabrike, preko SDPR-a, bez SDPR-a (najbolja varijanta, da SDPR ne zna), preko druge države itd. I ništa od toga nisu kupili kao seriju, verziju ili modifikaciju. Uvijek je bilo "hvala, ovo je dobro bilo, zvaćemo vas". I na kraju tenk Al Khalid ima na kupoli kompletna moja rješenja. Ne znam šta je unutra jer nisam vidio unutrašnjost tenka. Dakle, dao sam im rješenje za "Hvala". Dokumentacija mi je kopirana, torba mi je bila obijena, itd. Para za licencu nema nigdje.

Sad će biti isto.

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A kakve posledice ili sankcije bi mogli da trpe pakistanci (ili neki drugi ), u slucaju da odrade identicnu kopiju sretstva.
Znam da su kinezi kopirali sve i svasta, ali nisam cuo za neke sankcije od strane rusa i slicno.

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Posledice postoje samo ako je dizajn medjunarodno zasticen i vazeci u drzavi u kojoj se kopija proddaje isto i ako su neka kopirana resenja zasticena patentima i vazeca u protivnom nema posledica tj. pravno ih ne moze biti...

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The real story behind IG Sindh’s snap sacking

Controversy over plan to buy Rs8 bn APCs, bullet-proof jackets, other equipment for police

Citat:KARACHI/ISLAMABAD: The saga of purchase of bomb-proof armoured personnel carriers (APCs) and other security related equipment, worth Rs8 billion, from a vendor of an Eastern European country for the Sindh Police has been the cause of the third senior casualty in Sindh bureaucracy.

Sacked Inspector General of Sindh Police Iqbal Mehmood became the third officer who had been kicked out from the post for not obliging the controversial orders of a highly influential personality regarding the procurements of arms, ammunition and APCs and fresh appointments in the Sindh Police, The News has learnt.

Sindh Chief Secretary Sajjad Salim Hotiana says that he neither pressurised any officer to purchase any armoured vehicle from a specified vendor nor did he remove the IG Sindh. He says that as per the new law, the IG Sindh alone can go for the purchase of weapons and APCs and does not need the chief secretary’s or home secretary’s approval.

According to well-placed sources in the Sindh government, former chief secretary Aijaz Chaudhry and Additional Chief Secretary, Home Department, Sindh, Syed Mumtaz Shah, had already been removed from their posts due to their objections to the purchase of Rs8 billion weapons for the police.

Police are heading for a mega purchase of Rs8 billion bomb-proof APCs, bullet-proof jackets and other security equipment but apparently the stage has been set for a pre-selected vendor to make big bucks.

Recently, the Karachi Police chief wrote to the government for urgent need of APCs, bullet-proof jackets, helmets and other equipment which was responded by the Sindh government in the form of legislation, lifting the mandatory Public Procurement Regulatory Authority’s (PPRA) rules for one year to fulfil the requirements of the Karachi Police.

Both, the government and the opposition in the Sindh Assembly supported the Sindh Emergency Procurement Bill 2014, and the bill was unanimously passed on February 7, 2014. The law allows the law enforcement agencies to procure the latest weapons, bomb-proof vehicles and other material by putting the existing procurement rules in abeyance for one year.

Details reveal that in 2012, a vendor from an east European country was brought by some businessmen and meetings were held with the Karachi Police officers, and it was urged to purchase APCs from that vendor.

Many senior officers of the Karachi Police objected to the proposal and asked the vendor and his businessmen friends come through international bidding if he wanted to sell the APCs, said a senior police officer requesting anonymity. The sources maintained that the Karachi Police were previously purchasing the B-6 level APCs from the Pakistan Ordnance Factory, Wah, but now they needed the B-7 level APCs and that was why, the vendor was called from Europe to sell his APCs.

“Even some officers were taken to Europe to see the APCs in 2012,” said the sources. “The main reason of a straight no to the European vendor was that first he came himself and secondly, the police did not have the funds at that time,” said a senior officer, adding: “Later, the businessmen came with an idea that the Sindh government would generate the funds, but the idea could not materialise.”

The police officers at that time had told the businessmen and the vendor that the APCs required by the Karachi Police must be supplied with after sale, service, maintenance, repair and spare parts guarantee, the sources added.

Later, after the general election, the sources said, the same vendor was again introduced and a meeting was held which resulted in a drastic change in the mind of the Karachi Police officers.

Former CCPO Karachi Shahid Hayat wrote to the government that the Karachi Police were in dire need of APCs, bullet-proof jackets and other equipment, the sources held. “On the basis of the CCPO’s request, the Sindh Assembly passed a unanimous bill to make procurements for the law enforcement agencies on an emergency basis without following the PPRA Rules,” the sources said.

Karachi’s former police chief Shahid Hayat, while talking to The News in April, had said he knew that in 2012 a vendor came to sell his APCs and an MoU was signed, but that could not materialise as there were objections raised to the procurement process.

Shahid Hayat had said that at present, the Karachi Police were in dire need of APCs, bullet-proof jackets and other equipment to control the crimes in Karachi and that was why he had asked the government to help it.

Sindh Chief Secretary Sajjad Salim Hotiana, when contacted, said the Sindh government had passed a law which gives the IG all the powers to purchase weapons and other related equipment on his own and neither the chief secretary was involved nor did he ever ask the IG to strike a deal with the eastern European vendor.

He said that an impression was being created that the chief secretary was behind the IG’s removal but the facts were that he never asked him to do a specific purchase.

He maintained that the political government might not be happy over the performance of the IG or there may be some other reason that he had been removed. All the chief secretary has to do is to obey the orders of the chief minister and send the summary to the Establishment Division.


http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-31378-The.....ap-sacking

Izgleda da je Yugoimport pokusao da zavalja jos stvari uz oklopnjake. I to za lepe pare, ako sam dobro prebacio u dolare, radi se o nesto preko 81 milion dolara. Mora da je Yugoimport dobro podmazao cim se ovi iz policije Karacija ovoliko trude da ugovor prodje Very Happy

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