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Poslao: 24 Mar 2010 01:36
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evo nesto u vezi radarskog blokatora na t-50
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Poslao: 24 Mar 2010 09:09
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- sebab
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zanimljivo...
nego meni deluje da su lopatice koje sa vide na onoj slici u ravni ili cak malo iza glavnog tocka stajnog trapa. ako se pogleda profil aviona, ta pozicija deluje prilicno realno za lopatice kompresora. mozda blokator nije stavljen na t-50 u ovoj fazi, ili je ovaj filmic neka fikcija.
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Poslao: 24 Mar 2010 15:47
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- lacko
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Citat: S-shaped channel is worse that the aircraft have to wear a lot of empty space, the larger the midship area and front projection. And with regard to non-zero ESR radar-blocker, Duc have s-shaped channel EPR also not zero. a radar blocker can make multi-mode. Let me explain: we take 2 rings, among them "blade" made of flexible RPM. If you need more traction, then leave the blade straight, if you want invisibility, that povrachivaem one ring relative to the other and the blades become s-shaped, twisting Everyone remembers a hint about the "interesting" lattice and "elegant solution"? And critics nonplanar Broch want to say that this does not increase the belly of the EPR in the frontal projection, zoto reduces midsection. EPR at such a layout increases only with irradiation from the side-bottom, and this is when the aircraft is already protetel over radar
malo sam cesljao jedan ruski forum pa prevede preko gtrans-a i ispade zanimljivo....
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Poslao: 24 Mar 2010 16:07
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To je upravo ovo sto je gore postavio kikisp.
Eto jos jedna "misterija" je resena.
Nema smisla praviti toliki avion. Koji po ceni i nekim performansama treba da prevazidje postojece, a da broj raketa koji nosi odgovara jednom Migu-29. Zato ocigledano nije napravljen S kao kod Su-47.
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Poslao: 24 Mar 2010 16:50
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Samo mi i dalje nije jasno sto dva spremista za oruzije? Sto ne jedno koje bi moglo bez problema da primi unapredjenu KS-172?
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Poslao: 24 Mar 2010 17:19
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da li moze da nosi KS-172 na jednom od krilnih nosaca, onda bi mogao da je ispali ranije (domet oko 400 km) i opet bi bio stealth.
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Poslao: 25 Mar 2010 02:11
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evo nekih cinjenica o t50 skupljenih od strane takozvanih insajdera....
This is T-50-1, it's leaked and someone's head's gonna roll (there was
another photo with bay doors opened, but it didn't spread)
* What we see is indeed the engine front: as I suspected, for the airframe testing it was decided to drop the engine shielding completely
* The configuration is nowhere close to the final, and will be changed, perhaps rather dramatically, including the shape of a duct
* The radar blocker will be installed into the intake, which is NOT the fan-like contraption we often see, but a 3D coaxial labyrinth
* The radar blocker is already designed and produced, but now is installed only on T-50-KNS, and is absent on the T-50-1
* The radar blocker significantly alters the airflow in the inlet duct and current engines on T-50-1 aren't optimized for it => power drop
* That's why it isn't installed on the airworthy prototype, which suggests that it still uses older 117S engines
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Poslao: 25 Mar 2010 08:37
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lacko ::Citat: S-shaped channel is worse that the aircraft have to wear a lot of empty space, the larger the midship area and front projection. And with regard to non-zero ESR radar-blocker, Duc have s-shaped channel EPR also not zero. a radar blocker can make multi-mode. Let me explain: we take 2 rings, among them "blade" made of flexible RPM. If you need more traction, then leave the blade straight, if you want invisibility, that povrachivaem one ring relative to the other and the blades become s-shaped, twisting Everyone remembers a hint about the "interesting" lattice and "elegant solution"? And critics nonplanar Broch want to say that this does not increase the belly of the EPR in the frontal projection, zoto reduces midsection. EPR at such a layout increases only with irradiation from the side-bottom, and this is when the aircraft is already protetel over radar
malo sam cesljao jedan ruski forum pa prevede preko gtrans-a i ispade zanimljivo....
ok j ovo, donekle.
sta cemo ako zelimo stelt na velikoj brzini superkrstarenja? kaze da ako treba ostvariti veci potisak, onda teba ici na ravnu konfiguraciju. gde je onda stelt?
jos nesto-ja na onoj slici jasno vidim dva reda lopatica, a lopatice su jasno iza glavnog tocka stajnog trapa, sto bi znacilo da je to u stvari motor, jer nema prostora za blokator, koji bi treblao da ima odredjenu duzinu.
naravno, moguce je da blokator bude postavljen u kasnijoj fazi projekta, li to ujedno znaci i danije zavrsen njegov razvoj.
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