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Posto Japan menja konkretan broj aviona sa istim tim brojem. Otprilike toliko f-4 ce otici i bice zamenjeni sa Tajfunom ili F-15. Sem ukoliko ne naruce F-22...



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Japan makes another push for F-22

Citat:Japan is making a final push to buy the Lockheed Martin F-22 from the USA, and its defence minister has confirmed that Tokyo will consider alternatives including non-US fighters if the attempt fails.

"We are still seeking the possibility of acquiring the F-22, but if that does not work out, we will have to consider not just the [Lockheed] F-35, but others as options," Yasukazu Hamada told the Kyodo News Agency. "As of today, we still want to seek the F-22."

Within Washington, there are fresh calls to sell a fighter that Congress has barred from export due to its classified technology. US senator Daniel Inouye, who heads the Senate Appropriations Committee, supports a sale to Japan, the USA's closest military ally in east Asia.

In a recent letter to the Japanese ambassador, Inouye reportedly revealed that an export version of the F-22, which will come without the most sensitive technology, could cost $250 million. This includes the cost of developing an export model, something that would take up to five years. Deliveries would begin seven to nine years after a contract is signed, according to the US Air Force estimate.

Japan has said that it wants to buy 50 fighters as part of its F-X requirement to replace its McDonnell Douglas F-4s, and the total bill for a Raptor acquisition could total $12.5 billion. Some observers, however, believe that Tokyo could go for fewer aircraft if it buys the F-22.


The unit cost would be much higher than the $150 million that the USAF paid for each aircraft in its last batch of four F-22s. US defence secretary Robert Gates said in April that the Department of Defense would halt production of the Raptor at 187 aircraft after ordering four more in fiscal year 2009.

Observers say that an export deal would allow Lockheed to keep its production line open and give Washington the option of buying additional F-22s in the future if it changes its mind.

Gates, however, opposes the sale and believes that Japan should instead consider the F-35, which has less stealth capability. The Pentagon, reiterating that US laws do not allow F-22 exports, adds: "That's why the secretary made the further point to his Japanese counterpart that the F-35 is the plane which we are pursuing and the plane that we would recommend the Japanese focus their efforts in terms of procuring in the future."

Apart from the F-22 and F-35, Tokyo has also asked for information on Boeing's F-15SE and F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, and the Eurofighter Typhoon as part of its F-X process. It could choose one of these as an interim solution in the event of delays to the Joint Strike Fighter.


http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/06/10/32.....-f-22.html



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U nekim krugovima se suska da je pravi razlog za odustajanje od reptora pred njegove nesposobnosti da se bori protiv ruski lovaca 4++ generacije i problema sa steltom u stvari preusmeravanje para na razvoj i proizvodnju novog stelt aviona koji bi trebao da udje u upotrebu pre 2020 koji bi nadomestijo probleme koje ima reptor kako se jeos moglo cuti novi avion bi trebao da bude znatno veci zbog radara i mogucnost nosenja veceg broja naoruzanja, trenutno amerima najveci problem predstavljaju radari koji imaju vrlo kratak domet u odnosu na ruske radare te rakete koje su isto naspram ruskih zastarele.

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Moguce je to za novi avion,ima ta prica za Amere i Britance da prave nesto novo....ali samo nije mi jasno u kojim krugovima se to prica i to oko radara.

Ruski Pesa radar za SU-35 je jako dobar ali nesto sumnjam da americki AESA AN/APG-77 radar i AN/APG-81 koji ide u F-35 moze da bude losiji od ruskih.....a takodje ni Rusi nisu napravili neke bog zna kakve novije verzije svojih raketa(mislim nista toliko novo)....

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Su-35 ima radar Irbis-E, koji je PESA.

Sto se tice novih raketa - vredi pomenuti Novator K-100 (ili KS-172, kako se negde zove):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novator_KS-172_AAM-L

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Da moja greska Embarassed ali je mocan,nekako je izmedju Smile

stavljali smo vec svasta u temi o Su-35,MIG-35 bi trebalo da ima Zhuk AESA,videcemo sta ce biti na T-50.

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Kolko sam cuo , ruje razvijaju neki novi HESA radar , neku kombinaciju AESA i PESA radara ( hibridni ) gde kombinuju najbolje stvari od AESA i od PESA radara.

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Набавка још 12 Ф-22 за америчко ваздухопловство?

http://www.defpro.com/daily/details/335/

Dopuna: 23 Jun 2009 20:05

Наставак приче о продаји Ф-22 Јапану. Са све ценама Bebee Dol

http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-.....dChannel=0

http://www.f-16.net/news_article3557.html

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S obzirom da ih je, kad uracunaju R&D troskovi, njihov F-16 kostao 110 milion Laughing .

Verujem da bi za Japansku verziju bilo nekih izmena i da bi se time obasnilo poskupljenje jednim delo. Jeste da su to buduci dolari koji bi se poceli uplacivati za par godina i onda narednih jos 5 ili 6 koliko im treba da proizvedu tih 40 komada. Mada to nisu dolari iz 2030 pa da kazes cena od 290 miliona je OK Bebee Dol ...

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