|
Poslao: 03 Jul 2008 04:57
|
offline
- Taso

- Super građanin
- Pridružio: 28 Maj 2008
- Poruke: 1065
- Gde živiš: Terra Australis
|
Zorge ::Јесам ли ја то погрешно схватио да ови "Грачеви" троше дизел?
Moze ako zatreba....ali se ne preporucuje
sledece je materijal koji sam dobio preko email grupe...ne znam originalni izvor...
Citat:Su-25 is amazing plane, its unprepared field performance is INCREDIBLE and overall design simplifies logistics greatly:
1. can use diesel fuel for its jets (not going to last very long, but still better than nothing).
2. can haul fuel pump and some spares in special underwing containers. Sukhoi was fooling with idea to make people pods as well, so that ground crew could have been transported along with aircraft, but for some reason (lack of enthusiasm from the ground crews?) it did not came through
3. It's performance in muddy unprepared airstrips is amazing:
The Su-25's were able to taxi where 6x6s trucks were stuck in the mud
----------
Some examples from the war in Afghanistan:
One particular Su-25 (actually preproduction T-8-15 or Blue 15) flown by Colonel Alexander V. Rutskoj was damaged by AAA and two (!) AIM-9L Sidewinders launched by Pakistani F-16s.
Both times the aircraft brought pilot back to base
It was „refurbished” in Tbilisi and after receiving new paint job and bort number Blue 301 it was displayed in Paris in 1989. It was further modified for the weapon trials which included S-240 and S-25 330 mm unguided rockets. This aircraft currently on display at Khodynka Museum.
-Major Rubalov's Su-25 was hit in the engine which surged and flooded an engine bay with fuel, the cockpit was shattered, buster controls are gone and major's face covered with blood. None of the dials in the cockpit worked and his wingman guided him to the final approach. After belly landing, major rushed away from the Su-25 fearing that plane going to explode. After figuring that this is not going to happen, he got back to the aircraft and cut the engine.
-Another Su-25 was on fire which burned out most of the wiring and 95% of horizontal tail controls. In few moments before the landing, fire short cut the gear release wires and Su-25 made „conventional” landing.
-Lieutenant Golubtsov's Su-25 lost half of its rudder along with breaks. After landing his a/c ended up off runaway and rolled into adjacent mine field. He was forced to wait in the cockpit till mine squad cleared his way out.
-One Su-25 brought a missile in the engine which failed to detonate. (SAM?)
-Rutskoi's Su-25 was hit by AAA (ZGU) when a missile (Blowpipe) hit right engine (head on - it „turned off” the engine though the intake). Second AAA finally managed to shoot it down. This is a second Frogfoot he flew (not the preproduction T-8-15 Blue 15 which was damaged twice). Rutskoi spent some time as Pakistani POW and was shortly exchanged.
SM modernizacija...
Citat:Main element of the Su-25SM upgrade is the new PrNK-25SM nav/attack system with satnav receiver, colour multi-purpose LCD, and SUO-39 fire control system.
The upgrade is claimed to offer two to three times greater accuracy in weapons delivery and up to ten times in navigation accuracy. The upgrade also replaced the obsolete RWR with the L-150 electronic intelligence station and enables the use of R-73 advanced IR guided air-to-air missiles and KAB-500Kr TV-guided bombs.
[Link mogu videti samo ulogovani korisnici]
SU-25SM
  
  
|
|
|
|
|
Registruj se da bi učestvovao u diskusiji. Registrovanim korisnicima se NE prikazuju reklame unutar poruka.
|
|
|
Poslao: 03 Jul 2008 08:59
|
offline
- sebab
- Legendarni građanin
- Pridružio: 19 Dec 2007
- Poruke: 4193
|
jako zilav avion... kombinacija savrmeenog jurisnika i "partizanskig" aviona, sposobnog za dejstvo sa nepripremljenih poeltno sletnih staza.
nego - u textu pise da je ruckoj oboren od strane blowpipe-a i artiljerije (aaa), a pre toga je napisano da je doveo pilota u bazu nakon dejstva artiljerije i dve rakete sidewinder. ovo mi ni malo nije logicno, pre bih rekao da je obrnuto - da je oboren sidewinderima, jer i kaze da je bio zarobljenik (pow-prisoner of war) u pakistanu. svuda gde sam procitao, govori se da su ga oborili pakistanski f16.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Poslao: 03 Jul 2008 11:28
|
offline
- Taso

- Super građanin
- Pridružio: 28 Maj 2008
- Poruke: 1065
- Gde živiš: Terra Australis
|
Dobro si primetio....ako se dobro secam, usao je u Pakistanski vazdusni prostor gde je i oboren.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Poslao: 03 Jul 2008 20:17
|
offline
- vasiljevic

- Elitni građanin
- Pridružio: 09 Jan 2006
- Poruke: 1517
- Gde živiš: Beograd
|
@sebab:
Pitanje je koliko je puta Ruckoj bio pogadjan dok je leteo i koliko je puta "zalutao" na Pakistansku teritoriju? Iskreno, do takvih podataka je uvek tesko doci. Tako da moze da se desi da ga je avion vracao u bazu uspesno nekoliko puta, ali je zadnji put, pa, "malo" zakazao. I najboljima se desava pa sto nebi i Su25.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Poslao: 03 Jul 2008 21:09
|
offline
- zixo

- Legendarni građanin
- Pridružio: 27 Sep 2006
- Poruke: 23212
- Gde živiš: Beograd
|
Mislim da je Ruckoj dva puta obaran.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Poslao: 03 Jul 2008 21:17
|
offline
- Toni

- SuperModerator
- Pridružio: 18 Jun 2008
- Poruke: 33364
|
Snimci SU-25
[Link mogu videti samo ulogovani korisnici]
[Link mogu videti samo ulogovani korisnici]
[Link mogu videti samo ulogovani korisnici]
[Link mogu videti samo ulogovani korisnici]
MI-24 i SU-25 ispaljivanje raketa
[Link mogu videti samo ulogovani korisnici]
Ukajinski SU-25
[Link mogu videti samo ulogovani korisnici]
PS:Nazalost nisam nasao snimke u kojima SU-25 vrsi udare na ciljeve na zemlji,samo taj jedan kratak snimak kad ispaljuje rakete.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Poslao: 03 Jul 2008 21:26
|
offline
- Mixelotti

- Administrator
- Zidam zgrade i fasade .......... I armiram, betoniram. Utovaram, istovaram i nikad se ne odmaram
- Pridružio: 14 Dec 2005
- Poruke: 28371
- Gde živiš: Na istoj adresi ali promenih četiri države
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Poslao: 03 Jul 2008 21:30
|
offline
- mean_machine
- Legendarni građanin
- Pridružio: 23 Dec 2006
- Poruke: 12666
|
Jeste ot ali zanimljivo je.
IL-102
Poslednji pokusaj Iljušin fabrike da napravi mlazni IL-2.
|
|
|
|
|
|